1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Tonight on Fact or Fake, 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Paranormal Files. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Wow, did you see that? 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,000 We actually didn't believe that 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,000 that kind of an object existed. 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,000 This is huge. 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Visor down. 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Light it up, Larry. 9 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Oh, look at that! 10 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,000 What the f***? 11 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Oh, wow. 12 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,000 Wow. 13 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Check that out. 14 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 It would be a cover-up of enormous size. 15 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Lift off! 16 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Oh, my goodness. 17 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 There's a flying saucer. 18 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 I'm getting a series of lights right there. 19 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Oh, my God. 20 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 What the f*** is happening? 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Welcome back, everyone. 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Morning. How's it going, man? 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Good morning. 24 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Ladies. 25 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 We've got a lot of videos to see. 26 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,000 I'm really excited. 27 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,000 Who do we have up first? 28 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,000 I have something pretty unique. 29 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,000 It's something we've never investigated. 30 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,000 It was shot in October of 2009 31 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,000 in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. 32 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Now, these people are there. 33 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000 They're trying to film a home video 34 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,000 of their little bunny 35 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,000 that they wanted to post on YouTube. 36 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,000 But then they hear this noise 37 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,000 and they're like, 38 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,000 I'm going to film this on YouTube. 39 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 But then they hear this noise outside 40 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,000 in the backyard. 41 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,000 So they run to the window, 42 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,000 they turn the light on, 43 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 and they start filming through the window. 44 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 And they see something very strange, 45 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,000 a very strange-looking animal 46 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,000 that's standing under the wash line. 47 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,000 People are saying that this creature 48 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 is a moth man. 49 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,000 I want you to take a look at it 50 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000 and tell me what you think. 51 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Do you hear something outside? 52 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Yeah. 53 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,000 Where's it coming from? 54 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Yeah. 55 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Wow. 56 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Well, that's really strange. 57 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 I've actually had the image enhanced 58 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 and I'd love for you to just take a look at that. 59 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 That is freaky. 60 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 I can't see any real form to this 61 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,000 that's recognizable. 62 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,000 That is interesting to me. 63 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 I think it's probably just a video 64 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 done on a poor digital camera 65 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 shot at night with poor image quality. 66 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,000 I agree. 67 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,000 I'm going to have to say, Shelf, this one. 68 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,000 I think we're all in agreement that this isn't a case for us. 69 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Maybe if there isn't another sighting, 70 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 it could be a case to follow up on. 71 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,000 I have one that I'd like to share with you today. 72 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,000 This case is huge. 73 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,000 This is historical. 74 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,000 It involves something we all know a little bit about. 75 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 The moon landings. 76 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,000 I'm so excited that you brought this case to the table. 77 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,000 A quarter of the world's population still believes 78 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000 that we didn't actually go. 79 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,000 If the moon landings were faked, 80 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,000 it would be a cover-up of enormous size. 81 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,000 There are a number of theories as to why we'd fake the moon landings. 82 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 The principle theory is the Cold War. 83 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,000 We were involved in the race to space with Russia. 84 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Getting first to the moon meant world domination, 85 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 but we were struggling. 86 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,000 They put the first man in orbit, a satellite, a moon probe. 87 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,000 We were behind. 88 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Some people claim it became too difficult for us, 89 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 and so we decided to fake it. 90 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,000 I'm going to show you some video clips of the later moon landings, 91 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 which leave a lot of people thinking, 92 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,000 man, this really could have been hoaxed. 93 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Now, this is Apollo 15, 94 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,000 where astronaut David Scott is demonstrating an experiment 95 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 with a hammer and a feather 96 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 to show that these objects will fall at the same rate 97 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,000 when you're in a vacuum. 98 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,000 A lot of people are saying that this could easily be faked 99 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,000 on a soundstage made with Hollywood effects 100 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 that were available at that time. 101 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,000 So this clip from Apollo 16 102 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 shows astronauts Charles Duke and John Young, 103 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,000 and they're doing a moonwalk in a salute to the flag. 104 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Now, watch this. 105 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,000 A lot of people believe that this is simply somebody attached 106 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,000 to some type of a device that gets them to float. 107 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 You can see it's almost like a wire holding him up. 108 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Wow! 109 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Huh. 110 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Yeah, I see what you mean. 111 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Now, this one, if you look at the two astronauts again, 112 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,000 one of them is helping the other one up off the ground, 113 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 and the other one is holding him up. 114 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,000 So this is a very simple experiment. 115 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 If you pull him up off the ground, 116 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,000 he seems to pop back up in a very strange way 117 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,000 that doesn't look consistent with what you would expect. 118 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Oh! 119 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Oh, my God. 120 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Oh, my God. 121 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Wow. 122 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,000 It looks like he'd had something assisting him 123 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,000 and pulling him up off the ground. 124 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Look at that. 125 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Wow. 126 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,000 It's so strange. 127 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,000 What perplexes me is that over a quarter of the world's population 128 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 still believes we didn't land on the moon, 129 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,000 and they're pointing to clips such as this as their evidence. 130 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,000 I would love to see how easy or how difficult it would be 131 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,000 to recreate this with the technologies available back then. 132 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Because I think this case is so huge, 133 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,000 it's so historical that it deserves and merits our attention. 134 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Yeah? 135 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,000 I'm all for it. 136 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 I would love to be an astronaut. 137 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Yeah, absolutely. 138 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Let's start making plans for it. 139 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Let's lock it in right now. 140 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Let's do what else we have today. 141 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Let's do it. 142 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,000 OK. 143 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Moving on to Bill. 144 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 I've also got a big case. 145 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,000 How does filling up the night sky with giant blue explosion sound? 146 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,000 This is Chris Roach and his friends in Nettle in Texas. 147 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 They heard some explosions outside, 148 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,000 and they started to get very loud, repeating itself, 149 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 filling up the sky with a blue light. 150 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,000 They grabbed a camera. 151 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,000 They ran outside. 152 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 They started videotaping. 153 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,000 It got so intense they had to retreat back into their house. 154 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Take a look at this clip. 155 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Dude, OK. 156 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Look at that. 157 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,000 What the f*** are you freaking out? 158 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Oh my God. 159 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Oh, wow. 160 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Wow. 161 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,000 That is not something that you miss. 162 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,000 That is like the apocalypse. 163 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,000 The theory behind this is possibly 164 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,000 UFO taking off at supersonic speeds. 165 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Very peculiar. 166 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,000 If there was anything of any significance, 167 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 there would be a lot more witnesses than just these guys. 168 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,000 It feels like a natural weather phenomenon to me. 169 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 I think it would be a blast to try and replicate. 170 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,000 I just think we should probably look at the rest of the cases first. 171 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Well, Bill, would you look into it a little bit more? 172 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Sure. 173 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Larry, you have one more case for us, right? 174 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Yes, I do. 175 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,000 And I'm really excited about this one. 176 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,000 This one takes place in Gulf Breeze, Florida. 177 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 This place is renowned for UFO activity, 178 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,000 partly because of all the military presence in the area. 179 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Mike Hawkins and his friend are driving in their car 180 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 when they see this light in the sky. 181 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,000 They start following it, 182 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,000 but they get to a point where they can't drive anymore, 183 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,000 and they have to get out. 184 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Take a look at this video. 185 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Yeah, let's take a look at this. 186 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 That's a real thing, dude. 187 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 That is a real thing. 188 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 That is a real thing. 189 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Wow. 190 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,000 That is real. 191 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 It can't be no balloon. 192 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,000 As he's shooting it, it's behind this tree line. 193 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 It almost zooms off with an otherworldly speed. 194 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 That's a real thing, dude. 195 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Wow. 196 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,000 That is weird. 197 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 That is really glowing bright. 198 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,000 We never get a clip like this. 199 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Is Mike Hawkins making himself available 200 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 if it's a case we want to take on? 201 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,000 He's willing to work with us for sure. 202 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 So we have all the necessary criteria. 203 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Gulf Breeze is a hotbed for activity. 204 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,000 I think this video is strong enough that we go out and check it out. 205 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,000 I really like this one, 206 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,000 but now it's time to decide which one should we choose. 207 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 I think we have the moon. 208 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,000 We've already got that one locked in. 209 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Which should our other one be? 210 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 I think we should go with a Gulf Breeze UFO. 211 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Even though I wanted to fill out the night sky 212 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 with giant blue explosions, 213 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,000 I got to go with the Gulf Breeze UFO. 214 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,000 So Larry, because you brought us a Gulf Breeze video, 215 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,000 would you like to go to Florida? 216 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Yes, I would. 217 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Larry, Gael, and Bill, 218 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 I think you guys should do that. 219 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,000 I cannot wait to be an astronaut. 220 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,000 All right, well, let's get ready. 221 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Guys, I can't tell you how excited I am 222 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 to be doing a case on the moon landing. 223 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Yeah, I mean, this is huge. 224 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,000 This is actually tackling one of the biggest conspiracy theories 225 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000 out there. 226 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,000 It's been over four decades, 227 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,000 and people are still talking about a conspiracy 228 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 that maybe we didn't even go. 229 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 But before we actually strap on the moon boots, 230 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 it's really important that we talk to Aaron Reynon. 231 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Sounds like he has a really interesting story. 232 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Yeah. 233 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 He was commissioned to do a documentary, 234 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 a celebration of the landing, 235 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 and while doing so, he became a skeptic 236 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 because of the things it didn't add up 237 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,000 and make sense to him. 238 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,000 I don't know if it's even possible to fake the moon landing, 239 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,000 but a lot of people think that the footage 240 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,000 that came back from the moon is actually just a guy 241 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,000 on a sound stage. 242 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Well, here we are at the studio. 243 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 I can't wait to turn this place into the surface of the moon. 244 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,000 Wow. 245 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Plenty of room. 246 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,000 You can set it up kind of right here in the center. 247 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Aaron. 248 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Hi, guys. 249 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Ben, nice to meet you. 250 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Hi, Aaron. 251 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Thanks for coming. 252 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Thanks for inviting me. 253 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,000 You're welcome. 254 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,000 I'm very excited to see the results of your test 255 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,000 because, you know, I myself spent a year 256 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 trying to prove we landed on the moon. 257 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 I was actually funded by the state of Ohio, 258 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,000 and at the end of my year's journey, 259 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,000 I ended up with more questions than answers, 260 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 and it was very disturbing. 261 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 I mean, if you guys think about the proof 262 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 that NASA's laid out the why we actually landed on the moon, 263 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,000 you know, you can start, let's say, 264 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 with the actual video footage. 265 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,000 During my investigation, 266 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,000 I discovered that NASA had lost 267 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,000 all the original telemetry and science data 268 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 that was sent down in real time 269 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,000 from the capsule as it was making its way to the moon. 270 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Then NASA said they erased them 271 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 for budgetary reasons. 272 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 They changed their story more than once. 273 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 Not only did they change the story, 274 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,000 but they lost the original pristine footage. 275 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Do you find it really difficult to believe, though, 276 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,000 with over 400,000 people working on the moon missions, 277 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,000 that it being so complex 278 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,000 that they could pull off such a cover-up? 279 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Mission control was wired for simulations. 280 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,000 They would feed fake material in there, 281 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,000 signals so they could practice long before the moon landing. 282 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,000 So the whole apparatus to fake it was already set up 283 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,000 because that's how they were simulating and practicing. 284 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,000 So you think that the moonwalks could actually all be hoaxes? 285 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,000 I would say there is a possibility 286 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 that man's first landing on the moon 287 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,000 might have been hoax. 288 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Coming up on Fact or Faked, 289 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Paranormal Files. 290 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Let's see if we can defy gravity. 291 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,000 This is no joke. This is heavy. 292 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,000 Lift off. 293 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,000 We actually didn't believe that that kind of an object existed. 294 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Light it up! 295 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,000 I would say there is a possibility 296 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 that man's first landing on the moon 297 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,000 might have been hoax. 298 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,000 I mean this opens up a whole new avenue 299 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,000 and way of looking at it 300 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,000 but it gives us a good starting point 301 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,000 for our experiments as well. 302 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Perfect. 303 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Well I'm glad I could help man. 304 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Thank you so much. Appreciate it. 305 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 So we have some great experiments planned 306 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,000 to test specific portions of the Apollo missions. 307 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 But before we do that we need to transform this space 308 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 into the lunar surface. 309 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,000 So now that we have our frame built 310 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 it's time for our moon surface 311 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 which is actually decomposed granite. 312 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 We're hoping to prove even with limited construction 313 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 it's possible to recreate the basic look 314 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 of the original Apollo footage. 315 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 I think we're about done. 316 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,000 It's time for you to get suited up. 317 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 That's what I'm saying. I'm gonna put the suit on. 318 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Hey Chris. 319 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Hi there, how are you? 320 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Alright Austin is so ready to get suited up. 321 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,000 What do we have here? 322 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,000 We have an Apollo A7LB 323 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,000 the seventh generation of suit 324 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,000 that was developed for the Apollo program. 325 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,000 We're gonna have you put this on over the set of capillines 326 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 which will help wake the sweat away 327 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,000 and make it a little more comfortable. 328 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 So this first? That's first. 329 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,000 That's second. 330 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Alright, I'll be back in a minute. 331 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,000 Whoa! 332 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,000 There he is. 333 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,000 Looking good. 334 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Oh yeah. 335 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Looking pretty official now. 336 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,000 Final piece is the helmet. 337 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,000 Imagine having to do this 338 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,000 in something the size of a closet. 339 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,000 You have a clear bump visor 340 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 and then you have the gold visor 341 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,000 which is this 24 karat gold. 342 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,000 Well Chris, this is awesome. 343 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Thank you so much. 344 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,000 I mean now we have our moon surface 345 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,000 and we have Austin suited up. 346 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,000 I think we're ready to go. 347 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,000 We're gonna try our first experiment 348 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,000 which is replicating hammer and feather test 349 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,000 to see if we can get it to look like the original footage. 350 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Okay guys, we'll have the footage 351 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,000 from astronaut Dave Scott in the 71 mission of Apollo 15. 352 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 This is where of course he tests out 353 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Galileo's principle of falling bodies. 354 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Two objects of very different composition 355 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,000 will fall at the same time. 356 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Two objects of very different composition 357 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,000 will fall at the same rate 358 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,000 without air resistance in the perfect vacuum of space. 359 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,000 The skeptics are saying that the astronaut 360 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000 used this test which in the beginning 361 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,000 it's kind of like priming the people 362 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 to make them think that all this took place on the moon. 363 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,000 As we know, if we were to do this test 364 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 with a normal feather and a hammer 365 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 you know the feather would fall much slower 366 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,000 because of air resistance 367 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 but we've taken this and we put a test 368 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,000 and we put a titanium rod inside of it 369 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 so it's weighted with our hammer 370 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,000 which is a replica from that Apollo 15 mission 371 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 and we'll give you a 3-2-1 countdown 372 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,000 and it should you know drop at the same rate. 373 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,000 That's perfect. 374 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,000 I think we have it all framed up ready to go. 375 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Ben, you ready to hit the lights? 376 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Visor down. 377 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Hammer feather test 378 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 in three, two, one. 379 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,000 All right. 380 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,000 Our HD cameras scan twice as fast as the Apollo cameras 381 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,000 so to match the quality of the original footage 382 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 we're degrading our video by 50%. 383 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,000 I was a little worried that it would still get some air resistance 384 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,000 from the feather. 385 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,000 With a simple prop and some camera tricks 386 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,000 we actually were able to replicate the video almost exactly. 387 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,000 It looks like it felt the same rate. 388 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,000 I'm thinking this was pretty well done. 389 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,000 A lot of people are saying that this is kind of the jumping off point 390 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,000 for the conspiracy of this Apollo mission. 391 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Now let's do something a little bit more complex. 392 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 I think it's time to start moonwalking. 393 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,000 Yeah. 394 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,000 Now our hammer and feather test was actually really encouraging 395 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,000 so what we're going to do next 396 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,000 is going to be a little bit more challenging. 397 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,000 We're actually going to take on an iconic Apollo moonwalk. 398 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,000 And for this test, I'm going to get suited up. 399 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,000 This is no joke. This is heavy. 400 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 We're going to begin with testing a simple theory 401 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,000 that the astronauts were able to get that movement you see 402 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,000 like walking on the moon. 403 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,000 By simply attaching spring devices to the bottom of their boots. 404 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,000 A skeptics claim that NASA then used the technique known as film-adding 405 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 to erase all evidence of the springs. 406 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,000 I'm going to see if I can replicate the same movement we have in the original footage. 407 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000 Welcome to the moon, my friends. 408 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Are you ready to do your moonwalk? 409 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Oh, I'm ready. Let's do this. 410 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,000 I'm going to play the role of the second astronaut 411 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,000 so I'll be in the background by the flag. 412 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Okay, and you'll start somewhere up here. 413 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000 I'll get behind the camera, frame you guys up, count you down. 414 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Let's see if we can defy gravity. 415 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,000 Ben, is this good? 416 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Yeah, come towards me just a tiny bit. 417 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Austin, that's a good place to start. 418 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,000 Let's kill the lights. 419 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Visor's down. 420 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Our first moonwalk in three, two, one. 421 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,000 This is looking really hard for him. 422 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000 You look like you're struggling. 423 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Okay, try it again. 424 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Visor's down, our first moonwalk in three, two, one. 425 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,000 This is looking really hard for him. 426 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,000 You look like you're struggling. 427 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,000 Okay, try it again. 428 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Visor's down, the first moonwalk. 429 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Okay. 430 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 All right. 431 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000 So how's it look? 432 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,000 It didn't feel good. 433 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,000 I'm gonna say fail. 434 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,000 Yeah. 435 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,000 The problem was you were getting your motion down 436 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,000 and everything, but I think we're not able to reduce your weight. 437 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,000 I saw you straining to make that jump. 438 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,000 And you're coming down. 439 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,000 I'm gonna say fail. 440 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,000 I'm gonna say fail. 441 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,000 I'm gonna say fail. 442 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000 You're straining to make that jump. 443 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000 And you're coming down hard. 444 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 And it looks kind of awkward. 445 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,000 I'm still subject to the natural laws of gravity. 446 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Spring boots only help for the initial takeoff and when I land. 447 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,000 You can see there you're probably not even getting a foot. 448 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,000 And the original foot is about a foot and a half. 449 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Well, I think for our next experiment, we really have to get something 450 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,000 that'll give you a lot more lift. 451 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,000 I think lift and taking some of the weight off of your back, 452 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,000 maybe we could attach something and pull up on it. 453 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,000 We need something that's gonna control me as I come up and come down. 454 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 You're an awkward astronaut. 455 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,000 Let's try it out. 456 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,000 So on this next test, we've got theatrical flywire. 457 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Now this is gonna be counterbalanced with about 100 pounds, 458 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,000 which will hopefully simulate about the sixth gravity that the moon has. 459 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,000 And we'll have a flywire expert who'll be on this end. 460 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,000 We'll give us an extra added control where we can hopefully get that smooth motion. 461 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,000 So now I have this harness to attach myself to the ceiling 462 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,000 to hopefully give me the same floating look we see in the video. 463 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,000 Conspiracy theorists argue that what NASA claims is a radio antenna 464 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,000 is actually proof that a flywire was used. 465 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Let's kill the lights. 466 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,000 And walking in these moon suits is no small feat. 467 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Are we ready? 468 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,000 Okay, guys. 469 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Okay, guys. 470 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Okay, Chilan, check. 471 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Austin, check. 472 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Okay, let's go. 473 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,000 T minus three, two, one. 474 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Lift off. 475 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Nice. Give me some more leg action. 476 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000 I like it. I like it. 477 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,000 That was perfect height on the last one, just a little bit faster coming down. 478 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Frame perfect. 479 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Okay, so that last run, here is Austin jumping. 480 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,000 I do think it looks like I'm tilted forward slightly. 481 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,000 I gotta save. 482 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000 This attempt is so similar. 483 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Now, see the height? About a foot and a half. 484 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,000 It looks just perfect. It's perfectly framed. 485 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 I think it looks great. 486 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,000 So I think the theatrical wire was our best replication. 487 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000 I think we should continue to use it. 488 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000 Sounds good. Let's go. 489 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Okay. 490 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Next up, we're going to tackle a scene that's caused a lot of controversy. 491 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,000 The one where the two astronauts are actually kind of kneeling down 492 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,000 and one is helping the other one up. 493 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,000 A lot of the conspiracy theorists say that this footage could not have been shot 494 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:59,000 unless someone was using flywire to help this astronaut up off the ground. 495 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,000 So what I've done is I've switched up the terrain a bit, added some rocks. 496 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,000 I took the flag out. 497 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,000 I put the camera a little bit higher so we get the same perspective as the footage. 498 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 And we're all set up to go. 499 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:19,000 Austin, you will be playing the part of John Young crouched right here underneath your cable rigging. 500 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,000 All right. 501 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:25,000 And Chilan will be helping you up by the elbow as Charles Duke. 502 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,000 And then we'll have our flywire specialist over here 503 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,000 giving you kind of a snap right at the same moment that you pop up. 504 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,000 Okay, guys. You're in position. 505 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000 You ready to go, Austin? 506 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000 You tell me when, brother. 507 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Okay. Check. 508 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Three, two, one. 509 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Try to stand up. 510 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,000 A lot of the conspiracy theorists say that this footage could not have been shot 511 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 unless someone was using flywire. 512 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000 You ready to go, Austin? 513 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 You tell me when, brother. 514 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,000 Three, two, one. 515 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,000 Try to stand up. 516 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,000 I never thought going to the moon would be so much fun. 517 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,000 I'm jealous that you guys got to do that. 518 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:35,000 So, guys, we took video clips from Apollo 15 and 16 519 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:40,000 and specifically tried to recreate some things that many conspiracy theorists say 520 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,000 point to evidence that we never actually went to the moon. 521 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,000 This is our first clip, the hammer and feather test. 522 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,000 That looked really good. 523 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:59,000 We weighted our feather with a titanium rod inserted through the shaft. 524 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000 When they drop, they do drop at the same time. 525 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,000 Not too complicated. 526 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,000 Wow. 527 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,000 Next thing we did is we recreated this spacewalk 528 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,000 and the first thing we tried is using some spring boots. 529 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,000 This is what it looks like. 530 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Something's a bit off. 531 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,000 He's not able to get the same height as we're seeing in the other one. 532 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000 There wasn't a lot of stabilization. 533 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000 We didn't have a way to control gravity. 534 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,000 We needed more float and we definitely needed more control. 535 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,000 So we decided to move on to the next best thing, theatrical flywire. 536 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000 This is what that looks like. 537 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Oh, wow. 538 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,000 Oh, my goodness. 539 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,000 See, that looks weightless. 540 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,000 See, that's what's so great about this. 541 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,000 It was perfect. 542 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000 It took the weight off me. 543 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 It gave me that floating look. 544 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000 And this is not even slowed down. 545 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:05,000 You can see when he comes down, there's not quite as much of a compression that he's getting 546 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000 and he's getting a little more height. 547 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,000 So the last one that we decided to focus on is, of course, 548 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,000 what many conspiracy theorists say is a smoking gun, the Apollo 16 mission. 549 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Where the astronauts, one of them is kneeling down 550 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,000 and the other one is helping him off the ground. 551 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,000 The big question was, if you weren't using a flywire, 552 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,000 is that a natural motion that an astronaut would make on the moon? 553 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,000 I like that. 554 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Wow, that's good. 555 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,000 It looks weightless the way you guys did it. 556 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Well, we decided to talk to some experts 557 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,000 because we thought there's something missing here. 558 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Chris Gilman, he is a NASA space suit designer. 559 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000 He told us that when the suits are pressurized, 560 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,000 they naturally are in the standing position. 561 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,000 So what we're actually seeing here is the suit almost uncoiling 562 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,000 and that's why you get that springback motion. 563 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,000 So could the moon landings have been faked? 564 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Yes, you can replicate the moonwalk, the hammer feather test, 565 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000 all of that here on Earth pretty well. 566 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,000 I think if we had the same resources as NASA, we might be able to get exact. 567 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000 But does that really mean that it was hoaxed? 568 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,000 I personally don't think so. 569 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Your recreations were pretty convincing, 570 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,000 but I believe that the lunar landings are authentic. 571 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Even though it can be replicated here on Earth, 572 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,000 it doesn't mean that the same thing wouldn't happen in the conditions on the moon. 573 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,000 There were 400,000 plus people involved in the Apollo missions. 574 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,000 To get all of them to not divulge that we didn't actually go would be enormous. 575 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:54,000 And I think taking it all into account, it's much, much, much more probable. 576 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,000 It really did happen and we really went to the moon. 577 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,000 Now I want to hear about Florida. 578 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Well, our witness shot a nighttime video on the shores of Redfish Point 579 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,000 in Gulf Grease, Florida of a glowing object in the sky. 580 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,000 Here's what we found. 581 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,000 Here we are in Gulf Grease, Florida, which is renowned for its UFO activity. 582 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,000 It seemed like it really started in 1987 with that Ed Walters photo. 583 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:39,000 He said that he had captured a series of really clear photographs 584 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:45,000 of an object that looked like a topper with black squares and lighted portals. 585 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:52,000 And then in August of 1995, Mike Hawkins shot a video of a very similar looking object 586 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000 that we're going to investigate today. 587 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,000 There it is. 588 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,000 Check that out. 589 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,000 It's right over the bay. 590 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Where the hell did it go? 591 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,000 Well, one of the main theories is this was actually hoaxed. 592 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000 It does look like too clear. 593 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,000 Instead of just being a little fuzzy object, it's brightly illuminated. 594 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,000 We're on our way to the exact location in Gulf Grease 595 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000 where the original video was shot. 596 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000 And to meet our eyewitness, Mike Hawkins. 597 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,000 Hey Mike, how you doing? 598 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,000 Bill. 599 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,000 Pretty good. 600 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000 So this is the exact spot at Redfish Point where you shot that video? 601 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,000 Yes, it's right over here. 602 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,000 We'll follow you. 603 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,000 So Mike, we're retracing your steps from that night, right? 604 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Yes. 605 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,000 This was a dirt road. 606 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000 We would drive all the way back in there until the woods ran out 607 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 and we would sky watch right out there. 608 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000 What would you expect to see out here? 609 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Military activity. 610 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,000 Also UFO activity. 611 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,000 This was the spot right here. 612 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,000 Right here between these trees here? 613 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,000 Yes. 614 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000 Like how many investigators were with you that night? 615 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000 On that night, there was just two of us. 616 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000 We was driving down through here and we was coming down to sky watch 617 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000 like we did almost every day of the week. 618 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,000 About at the midway point, that's when we seen it out over the bay. 619 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Oh man. 620 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,000 Get out, man. 621 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,000 Get out. 622 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000 We jumped out to try to get a better angle of it. 623 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000 It's a short line. 624 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000 At that point, you could see some structure in it. 625 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Check that out. 626 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,000 Check that out. 627 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,000 We actually didn't believe that that kind of an odd point was going to happen. 628 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000 We didn't believe that that kind of an object existed 629 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,000 because we'd never seen it and we'd been sky watching for years. 630 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000 No balloon. 631 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000 That was real. 632 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,000 That's a real thing, dude. 633 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,000 How long was it in the sky? 634 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000 Couple minutes, maybe total. 635 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000 I'm not knowing what it is. 636 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000 You know, I'm thinking, well, maybe it is a blimp or something 637 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000 but I wanted to get a better shot of it. 638 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,000 But when it zipped off, you know, it wasn't a blimp. 639 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000 Where the hell did it go? 640 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000 It looked like it maybe went down. 641 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,000 It's weird. 642 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Like it zipped downwards. 643 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000 Did it make any noise when it zipped off? 644 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000 No. 645 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000 I didn't hear anything. 646 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,000 Can you say, Mike, that you were involved or not involved 647 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000 with any sort of a hoax of this UFO video? 648 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,000 No. 649 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,000 We didn't have any money for props. 650 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000 I guarantee I didn't fake it. 651 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,000 I'll take a light detector test. 652 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,000 Mike, thank you for your time. 653 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,000 Really appreciate it. 654 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,000 We'll see you in a minute. 655 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,000 I'll see you in a minute. 656 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000 I'm going to show you what we saw. 657 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,000 Look at that. 658 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000 You got a good shot. 659 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000 So one of the theories that we're working with is that 660 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,000 the object we're seeing in Hawkins' video 661 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,000 is simply a lit prop being pulled across the horizon. 662 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000 So I want to set up a zipline across these trees 663 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000 just like what we're seeing in Mike's original video. 664 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000 And hopefully we can even get that moment where the UFO disappears. 665 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Where the hell did it go? 666 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,000 We're going to take our steel aircraft cable here. 667 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000 We're going to attach it to these two trees, 668 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,000 which are about 30 feet across. 669 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,000 And we're going to rig it at about 20 feet up. 670 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,000 It's there that we're going to create our own lit object 671 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,000 to see if it matches the original video. 672 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,000 Right now I'm cutting up these foam sheets into smaller panels, 673 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000 which I'll then connect and make our mock UFO. 674 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000 So in order to replicate the lit portals, 675 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,000 I'm going to use some black tape right here, 676 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,000 and I'm going to cut some holes into it 677 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,000 that essentially are going to go around the UFO that Larry's building, 678 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000 and it's going to be kind of like a jacket. 679 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,000 Make sure we get it nice and straight. 680 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,000 Guys, up close, I know this is very rudimentary, 681 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000 but Mike told us during the interview, 682 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000 he didn't have very much money at all. 683 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,000 And so I took that into account, only spent 20 bucks on the materials, 684 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,000 and I'm pretty sure that once it's dark, 685 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000 you guys get at your vantage point, it's going to look great. 686 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000 Okay, as soon as it gets dark, we'll start our experiment. 687 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,000 All right. 688 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000 So we built our own Gulf Breeze UFO. 689 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,000 Larry is attaching it to the zip line now, 690 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000 which is black and should be invisible against the night sky. 691 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,000 In the original video, the craft seemed to disappear. 692 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,000 And I'll be using this remote to dim the interior light 693 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000 that we mounted inside of our craft. 694 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,000 So we've established our vantage point, 695 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:56,000 and I'm standing a little less than 100 feet from where our mock UFO is. 696 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,000 I've got my camera. 697 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000 What I'm going to do is try and replicate the same footage 698 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000 from Hawkins' original video. 699 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,000 This is the path you're going to take. 700 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Yeah. 701 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000 That pretty much mimics what we're seeing in the video. 702 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,000 Bill and Gioffolari. 703 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,000 Go, Fillari. 704 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Are you ready to begin the movement of the UFO? 705 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000 I'm ready to go whenever you are. 706 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:20,000 Three, two, one. 707 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,000 Begin motion. 708 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,000 Lights on. 709 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,000 So the Gulf Breeze UFO that we built is mounted on a zip line. 710 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000 This will give Larry the control he needs 711 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000 by moving it on a pulley system across the length of the trees. 712 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000 We're hopeful that from the vantage point with the camera, 713 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000 it will look just like we see in the original Hawkins' video. 714 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,000 That thing's for real. 715 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,000 Three, two, one. 716 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Begin motion. 717 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Lights on. 718 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,000 Wow. 719 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,000 This is unbelievable. 720 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,000 Perfect. 721 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,000 Perfect. 722 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000 Start moving towards the woods here. 723 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,000 Hands to the left. 724 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Yeah. 725 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,000 All right. 726 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000 So now we have to make it disappear really quickly. 727 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,000 So I need you to turn off the light as I'm panning up and right. 728 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000 Give me the mark on three. 729 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Okay. 730 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,000 One, two, three. 731 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,000 Off. 732 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,000 That looks pretty good. 733 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000 I think we have a pretty good match here. 734 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,000 Guys, how did it look? 735 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000 You're going to be pleasantly surprised. 736 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,000 All right. 737 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,000 Look how close it's matching. 738 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,000 I'm having a hard time finding any differences at all. 739 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:58,000 The only thing I'm noticing right here is that our UFO is actually shining a light onto one of the trees. 740 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:03,000 So you can see that it's actually really close to the trees rather than up in the sky. 741 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,000 You know, there's another issue too. 742 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:10,000 If you look at the video that we just shot, we have really good horizontal motion, 743 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000 but we don't have good vertical motion. 744 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000 In the original video, look how it's actually going to look. 745 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000 And then start to come back down. 746 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Ours almost looks like it's on just a horizontal track. 747 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,000 I'm thinking of another experiment that would give us more vertical control. 748 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,000 Okay. 749 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,000 Okay. 750 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,000 Now we're moving on to our RC helicopter test, 751 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,000 which will suspend our UFO in the air and will have a lot of light. 752 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000 So we're going to start with the first one. 753 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,000 Okay. 754 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000 Now we're going to do the helicopter test, 755 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,000 which will suspend our UFO in the air and will have a lot more vertical control. 756 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000 Right now I'm building our illuminated panel, 757 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000 which the helicopter will actually be towing around. 758 00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:00,000 On the inside of this panel, I'm going to actually line it with LED strips. 759 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,000 I'm going to spray paint the front panel with black spray paint, 760 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000 and then I'll just cut it out using this as our model. 761 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,000 I have a remote control helicopter here. 762 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,000 That looks really cool. 763 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000 I've got about a five pound payload that this can lift. 764 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000 We want to get our UFO about 20 feet in the air. 765 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,000 To do so, the helicopter is going to go about 30 feet. 766 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000 Then if you add some slack at the bottom, 767 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,000 I can actually frame the helicopter out so we can mimic the original video. 768 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000 There it is. Check that out. 769 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,000 In the original video, the UFO seems to disappear or blink off. 770 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,000 I'm going to be radioing Larry, 771 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,000 who's then going to turn off the lights remotely. 772 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Larry, you ready to get that thing airborne? 773 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Hey Bill, I'm ready whenever you go, sir. 774 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000 Get it up in the air. 775 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,000 Alright, I'm lifting off right now. 776 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000 On three, two, one. 777 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,000 Light it up, Larry. 778 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,000 Yeah. 779 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,000 There it is. There it is. 780 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,000 Look at it. It matches it. 781 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,000 I think it looks pretty good. 782 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,000 Look at it. 783 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000 Right, left to right. 784 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000 We need to see it move through the tree line. 785 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,000 That's what we need. Like that. That's what we need. 786 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,000 The only problem is that because it's a panel, 787 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,000 when it does a 360 turn because of the wind, 788 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000 we lose the three-dimensional effect. 789 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,000 Generated to cut the lights on three, two, one. 790 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,000 Cut the lights, Larry. 791 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000 Whoa. That was weird. 792 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000 Yeah, that's actually pretty good. 793 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000 Go ahead and take it down and join us at the vantage point over here. 794 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,000 Alright, Larry, let me just show you what it looked like. 795 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,000 Oh, wow, wow, wow. 796 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,000 That looks good. 797 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,000 And look how it's matching it. 798 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,000 I mean, you definitely had the vertical and the horizontal control that we wanted. 799 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,000 Very, very similar. 800 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,000 But then it starts this whole shaking and it's turning a little bit. 801 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:27,000 It starts to turn 360 because of the wind and we lose a three-dimensional effect. 802 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,000 Obviously, there's going to be wind. 803 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000 That's true. They call it Gulf Breeze for a reason. 804 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,000 I think it's safe to say it was not an illuminated panel. 805 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,000 It illuminated a panel hoisted up by any other means. 806 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,000 It just wasn't this. 807 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,000 Both of our experiments got really close, 808 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,000 but I'm beginning to think that maybe it wasn't anything in the air flying at all. 809 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,000 Maybe it was perhaps something from the ground and it was just an illusion of flight. 810 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:56,000 For this next test, we're projecting a custom-made gobo onto a theatrical screen. 811 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,000 Think of a gobo as the bat image projected against the night sky. 812 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,000 Gobo means go before optics. 813 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Looks exactly like the image in the original clip. 814 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,000 I'm going to place it into our spotlight, which then I'll project onto a screen. 815 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000 Hey guys, how's it going? 816 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,000 Good. We've got our 10 by 15 foot movie screen. 817 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,000 You're going to project from behind it so you should be able to capture that projection. 818 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,000 Exactly. 819 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,000 This screen is black. It should disappear against the night sky. 820 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,000 Once we've got a stable projection, I'll be able to control the horizontal 821 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000 and vertical movement with my camera. 822 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000 Florey, how are you doing? You set up over there? 823 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000 I'm all ready to go, waiting on your cue. 824 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,000 On three, two, one. 825 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,000 Light up! 826 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:04,000 Now we're going to try to replicate an illusion of flight by using our gobo and spotlight. 827 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,000 I'm all ready to go, waiting on your cue. 828 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:13,000 On three, two, one. Light up! 829 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,000 Wow! 830 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,000 So tell me about Florida then. 831 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:25,000 Our witness, Mike Hawkins, shot a really clear video of an object in the sky 832 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,000 and revealing detail that we haven't seen in any other UFO footage before. 833 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,000 Check that out. 834 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000 In our first attempt to recreate the original footage, 835 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,000 we strung a zip line between two trees and sent up a replica UFO. 836 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000 Wow! That looks really, really similar. 837 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,000 The problem was, we could only get it to move left to right, not up and down. 838 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000 And so we decided to move on to our next experiment. 839 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:01,000 We had an RC helicopter and a cut-out panel that was lit up by LEDs. 840 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,000 But the problem with that is the panel was lightweight and very susceptible to the wind. 841 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,000 It would turn left and right and it would lose that UFO shape. 842 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,000 So we knew then we had to move on to an experiment that would not be susceptible to the wind 843 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,000 and that would be by creating the illusion of an object being in the sky. 844 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,000 To our last experiment involved a gobo or a gobo for optics. 845 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,000 And we projected that onto a big screen. 846 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,000 Wow! This is incredibly similar, guys. It's uncanny. 847 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,000 In order to create the illusion of the craft flying away like we see in the original video, 848 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,000 Gael simply moved the camera up. 849 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,000 Wow! Isn't it amazing? 850 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,000 It looks exact. 851 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:02,000 But I mean, with a big screen that you have to erect, Mike must have been on that if that was really the solution. 852 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,000 We started the one and the same thing. 853 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:12,000 So we had to submit the interview that we conducted with Mike to layered voice analysis. 854 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,000 This is what happens during the initial interview. 855 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,000 Well, we was driving down through here and we was coming down to Skywatch like we did almost every day of the week. 856 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,000 And about at the midway point, that's when we seen it out over the bay. 857 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,000 Wow! 858 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,000 So what this is suggesting is that, yes, he definitely saw something in the sky, 859 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:36,000 but if you play this next clip, you'll see that he may have known what it was he was looking at. 860 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,000 I'm not knowing what it is. You know, I'm thinking, well, maybe it is a blimp or something, 861 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,000 but I wanted to get a better shot of it. But when it zipped off, you know, it wasn't a blimp. 862 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,000 Wow! 863 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,000 What this is really suggesting is that he wasn't in on a hoax, 864 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,000 but he may have known or suspected what the object was. 865 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,000 Maybe he was not in on the hoax. I still think the video is fake. 866 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,000 I think that he knows there's a possibility that it wasn't a UFO. 867 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,000 I think that he may not have been in on the hoax, but he was hoaxed. 868 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,000 You were spot on with your replications. It can be done. Did he do it? 869 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000 Maybe he didn't hoax it, but he probably knew what it was. 870 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000 Check that out. Check that out. 871 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,000 Where the hell did it go?